Hopefully, it won’t take over your life, although we see here an example of someone whose life it was taken over by. So, it’s a muscle that you exercise on a daily basis. Maybe mainly actors because it’s a muscle you have to push when you always have to be someone else.ĪRIEL: Yes, because you have to zone into someone else’s mind. Were you perhaps similarly attracted to this killer as Capote was to his?ĪRIEL: Yeah! By the way, I think all artists have a certain split personality in them. ME: I think it was Truman Capote who said something to the effect that the artist and the killer grow up in the same house but one day the artist walks out the front door and the killer walks out the back door. Sometimes you can feel among you a sociopath but 90% of the time you won’t. That duality was very fascinating to me.ĪRIEL: An extreme bi-polar that has no conscience, no fear and has issues dealing with people, although he doesn’t show it. What attracted me to this story was that it’s a story about a an extreme sociopath who on the one hand didn’t feel anything for a second when he took a life away, and yet in his own mind he felt so much for the people that he created, his family. A psychopath gets a certain emotion and feeling out of killing, whereas a sociopath is doing it not necessarily because they want to kill but because it’s serving a certain physical element in their own life.
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A serial killer is a psychopath and a hitman is a sociopath. Can you speak about what first attracted you to the story of serial killer Richard Leonard "The Iceman" Kuklinski?ĪRIEL: First of all he wasn’t a serial killer. ME: And you’re just getting started! This is your third feature. And all of that naturally led me back to film. I used to play drums as a kid as well, so I got back into the music world where I started teaching and traveling as a performing artist. It was during this time I started to be affected by music again. By the end of it, it was natural for me to move into law school so I moved to England and did law school there. I chose to go to a very special unit of the Air Force so I had to do four years of military service where they drain you from anything creative. I used to do that but then I went to the army, like every Israeli. Anyway, I got my first Super 8 camera when I was thirteen and that was the beginning of me starting to be attracted to cinema. Then I came back to Israel and started Hebrew so I forgot all my Portuguese.
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In fact, I have Super 8 movies from when I was a kid blabbering away in Portuguese fluently.
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Can you tell us about your long roundabout journey getting into filmmaking?ĪRIEL: I grew up in Israel and then my family moved to Brazil when I was four.ĪRIEL: No, nao falo Portugues. ME: You came from Israel before taking on Hollywood. I Interviewed director Ariel Vromen while in Sonoma. It hits theaters today, MAY 3rd, nationwide.
Directed by Ariel Vromen, the film stars Michael Shannon, Winona Ryder, Ray Liotta, Chris Evans, David Schwimmer, Ryan O’Nan and James Franco. Richard was an American hitman who joined the mafia as a contract killer for the DeCavalcante crime family in New Jersey and the Five Families in New York. ‘The Iceman’ (2012) is based on the true story of Richard Leonard "The Iceman" Kuklinski, a veritable sociopath who led parallel lives- a brutal contract killer and a devoted family man- until his arrest in 1986.